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Malaysian Insider

‘Disappearing’ indelible ink staining GE13, voters complain

UPDATED @ 12:44:56 PM 05-05-2013

By Emily Ding
May 05, 2013

Muntoh Fong demonstrates that the ink is not indelible after all. — Picture courtesy of Muntoh FongKUALA LUMPUR, May 5 — Many voters are complaining of being able to wash off indelible ink used to mark their fingers as thousands start casting their ballots today in Malaysia’s hotly contested general election.

Voters have claimed this firsthand on social media networks such as Facebook and Twitter and shared pictures of their clean index fingers, and the materials they have used to wash off the link — which so far includes soap, dishwashing liquid and bleach.

Muntoh Fong posted three photographs on Facebook illustrating the process of getting his finger cleaned with just soap and a brush.

“One more wash and I can go for another polling station,” he wrote.

Electoral watchdog Bersih has asked voters to send in complaints for them to forward to the authorities.
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PAS deputy spiritual leader Datuk Dr Haron Din, candidate for the Arau parliamentary seat, shared a picture of his clean finger half an hour after he voted this morning.

Combo pictures showing Haron’s stained and then cleaned finge

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/disappearing-indelible-ink-staining-ge13-voters-complain/

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讓我示範是否真的可以洗脫這所謂的不退色的墨水。 是這墨水不耐定係Colgate好嘢?
讓我示範是否真的可以洗脫這所謂的不退色的墨水。
是這墨水不耐定係Colgate好嘢

Google translation

I the demonstration really can remove this so-called non–fading ink. Is the ink intolerance given that the Department of Colgate good Stuff?
I the demonstration really can remove this so-called non–fading ink.
This ink intolerance given the Department of Colgate Ye

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Free Malaysia Today

EC holds demo on indelible ink

The indelible ink could not be removed from the finger of a media personnel despite washing it several times using several items.

PUTRAJAYA: Following public uproar on the indelible ink fiasco, Election Commission (EC) today held a public demonstration to prove that ink could last despite washing the finger several times.

EC secretary Kamaruddin Mohamed Baria invited a member of the press, who did advance voting, to participate in the demonstration.

This time, the EC staff shook the indelible ink bottle for about 30 seconds before applying on the Sinar Harian reporter, Muhammad Shamsul Abd Ghani’s index finger.

Later, Shamsul attempted to wash away the ink several times using disinfectant, spirit, vinegar and water but failed.

The attempts only turned the ink colour from dark purple to dark red.

Earlier during the press conference, Kamaruddin admitted that the indelible ink may not last 100 percent on a person’s finger should they attempt to wash it away using various means.

But he assured that the ink stain would remain around the nail of the index finger once applied between five to seven days.

“That’s why we will also provide magnifying glasses to our staff to check the voter’s finger,” said Kamaruddin.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2013/05/02/ec-holds-demo-on-indelible-ink/

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Tian Chua ‏@tianchua 23h

Indelible ink not mixed properly?! Now the EC blamed the staff. What a lame excuse! #DemiRakyat #IniKaliLah http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/artic

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Indelible ink is delible!

THE ELECTIONS AND INDELIBLE INK

The EC has maintained that the stain will remain visible for seven days, and that the ink used for advance voting will only fade after about 10 days.

However, it was reported that the indelible ink used for voting at the early voting centers on April 30 2013, for the police and army, was delible. You could rub it off within hours, or by lunch.

■ DELIBLE … A voter shows how the ink can be removed using a wet cloth  (Harakah Daily English EC told to explain delible ‘indelible ink’)

Just what is going on?

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Malaysiakini

The indelible ink fiasco widely reported by the media and on the Internet yesterday has reinforced calls by Bersih for the Election Commission (EC) to hold a public demonstration on the procedure immediately.

Bersih co-chairperson Ambiga Sreenevasan said the excuse given by the EC defies logic and  is unacceptable.

“I am incredulous that they would even proffer this as a reason. How is this acceptable when the whole purpose of indelible ink is that it cannot be removed? This is totally unacceptable.

“Now, this is more reason why a public demonstration must be held immediately to allay the fears in relation to its use on Sunday,” said Ambiga in a text message to Malaysiakini.

Meanwhile, fellow steering committee member, Maria Chin Abdullah, said such reported incidents may have compromised the electoral and democratic processes.

Maria said the EC should be held responsible if there is a duplication of votes, for those who voted under the early voting process yesterday could be voting again on Sunday.

Hold public demo on indelible ink, Bersih asks again

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IN THESE CASES, AS REPORTED BY THE STAR, THE INK STAYED ON…

Star

Wednesday May 1, 2013

GE13: Indelible ink just won’t come off

Reports by RAZAK AHMAD, FLORENCE A. SAMY, FARIK ZOLKEPLI, AUSTIN CAMOENS, YUEN MEIKENG, NURBAITI HAMDAN, M. KUMAR, JOSEPH KAOS Jr and VIJENTHI NAIR

KUALA LUMPUR: Try as they might, advance voters could not remove the indelible ink off their finger once it was applied.

Policewoman L/Kpl Siti Norhana Ridzuan who joined police personnel nationwide, being the first group of voters to use the indelible ink for the first time tried to wash it off after she cast her vote.

“The dark red ink stayed on. All I read about it is true. Looks like I have to wait between five and seven days before I can put on nail polish again,” said the Bukit Aman personnel.

From as early as 8.30am, police personnel went to cast their vote at some 474 voting streams nationwide. The election clerks applied some ink on the voters’ left index finger before giving them a piece of tissue, asking them to try to wipe the ink off. None succeeded.

L/Kpl Siti Rohana, who already had inai (skin dye) on her fingers, said the dye “lost its effects” as the ink completely covered the nail on her index finger.

Regina Lee ‏@reginalah 23h
These early voters could not remove the indelible ink no matter how hard they tried to rub it off with tissue paper. http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=%2F2013%2F5%2F1%2Fnation%2F13047300&sec=nation&utm_source=TSOL_main&utm_medium=links&utm_campaign=GE13#.UYCFQNxwjzE.twitter 

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Malaysiakini

Bernama 8:47AM May 1, 2013

Allegations that indelible ink can be easily removed by washing may be due to failure by the Election Commission (EC) staff to follow procedures.

EC secretary Kamaruddin Mohamed Baria said today following the allegations, the EC ran some tests yesterday and as a result, fingers smeared with ink from shaken bottles lasted longer than the others.

“Not withstanding the impact of indelible ink, the EC like to emphasise that early voters who voted on April 30 2013 cannot vote again on May 5 because their names do not exist in the electoral roll for ordinary voters,” he said in a statement late last night.

Kamaruddin said the EC will continue to use indelible ink on May 5, 2013 in accordance with the requirements of the law currently in force.

The EC received the information via social networking sites with photograph of an early voter showing the indelible could be easily removed by washing.

EC staff made mistake by not shaking indelible ink bottle

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Sundaily

Not so indelible ink, claims Pemantau

A picture of voters’ fingers taken by Pemantau observers at a polling station in Batu, showing how the indelible ink was washed off with hand sanitiser gel leaving only traces of the ink.

PETALING JAYA (April 30, 2013): Advance voters have been able to remove indelible ink using various cleaning agents, fuelling public fear of electoral fraud, election watchdog Pemantau said today.

Pemantau committee member Maria Chin Abdullah said they have received complaints from Kelantan, Kuala Lumpur and Sarawak that advance voters could remove the indelible ink with sanitiser gel, alcohol swabs, petrol and soap.

“It is outrageous that this should happen after so much expense, paid for by public funds and official assurances of the ink’s efficacy.

“This incident will only further fuel public fear of electoral fraud and calls into question the conduct of the Election Commission (EC),” she told a press conference.

Pemantau also showed several photographs and a video of individuals who had removed the ink from their fingers, leaving only a reddish stain.

Asked on the credibility of the videos, Pemantau committee member Syed Ibrahim Syed Noh said they were recorded by Pemantau observers.

“We trust they would not make up these incidents, and furthermore, a police report has been made in Batu,” he said.

Pemantau is demanding that the EC purchase new ink for polling day and that it holds a public demonstration on the usage of the ink.
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Meanwhile, Sentul police chief ACP Zakaria Pagan, when contacted, confirmed that PKR vice presidents Tian Chua and Nurul Izzah have lodged separate reports over the ink issue in their constituencies.

Not so indelible ink, claims Pemantau

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Free MalaysiaToday

EC probing reports on indelible ink

It’s deputy chairman Wan Ahmad Wan Omar says the commission is attempting to verify reports that the indelible ink could be washed off within minutes.

PETALING JAYA: The Elections Commission is investigating reports that the indelible ink, which was supposed to last seven days, could be washed away within minutes with water.

“It’s too early to comment. We are still in the midst of verifying the authenticity of the story,” said EC deputy chairman Wan Ahmad Wan Omar.

Earlier today, Negeri Sembilan PAS alleged that military officers who cast their ballots today were able to wash away the ink marked on their index fingers within 20 minutes.

Negeri Sembilan PAS secretary Mohammad Hassan claimed that he has photographic evidence showing military officers in Telok Kemang being able to wash off the ink mark.

“About 9.30 this morning, the first batch of the early voters finished casting ther ballots and came out of the polling centre.

“Our monitoring agents found several military officers washing away the ink at the sink and the mark disappeared.

“Based on our checks, we found that 95% of the ink could be washed away in no time,” Mohamad was reported saying.

Mohammad also claimed that he received information from a military officer who claimed that he could wash away the indelible ink mark by lunch time.

EC probing reports on indelible ink

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1,000,000 Chinese dont want MCA to represent the Chinese

Indelible ink is delible after all!
http://www.malaysiakini.com/
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Malaysiakini

Barely hours after ‘indelible’ ink was used for the first time in Malaysia, complaints have emerged that the ink is in fact removable.

This is contrary to the Election Commission’s (EC) assurance that traces of the ink would last at least seven days on the finger after being painted on with a brush.

One soldier, who had marked his ballot in advance voting this morning, said he had removed most of the ink with water alone – just six hours later.

“Only 30 percent is left, and I haven’t even used soap yet. The standard is like stamp (ink) pads, which is not very strong.

“On the nails, it is 100 percent gone. It is a little difficult to remove from the seams. On the skin, I think it would be gone with rigorous washing with soap,” said the soldier in a text-message.

He did not wish to be identified.

PKR vice-president Tian Chua said some 20 security personnel had approached him to demonstrate how the ink can be “completely” removed with a hand sanitiser gel.

“This is very disappointing,” he said when contacted, adding that he had lodged a police report at 2pm today.

He called for EC chief Abdul Aziz Mohd Yusof’s resignation.

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A police trainee shows his ink-stained finger after casting his ballot during early voting at the Police Training Centre (PULAPOL) in Kuala Lumpur April 30, 2013. — Picture by Choo Choy May

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/advance-voting-gets-under-way/

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