It was no confession: Project Veritas ambushed ‘Nick Karl From Pfizer’ and then they gloated at him


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Project Veritas and ‘Nick Karl From Pfizer’

Posted on by Kim LaCapria


Project Veritas “exposed” Pfizer via a secret video of scientist Nick Karl lauding “natural immunity.”


Not True


On October 4 2021,  Project Veritas — an organization that releases heavily misleadingly edited far-right propaganda videos and pretends they are journalistic “stings” — claimed to “expose Pfizer” through secret videos of “Pfizer scientist Nick Karl”:

In a piece with the headline, “Pfizer Scientist: ‘Your Antibodies are Probably Better than the Vaccination,’” the organization asserted:

[NEW YORK – Oct. 4, 2021] Project Veritas released the fourth video in its COVID vaccine investigative series today which exposed three Pfizer officials saying that antibodies lead to equal, if not better, protection against the virus compared to the vaccine.

Nick Karl, a scientist who is directly involved in the production of Pfizer’s COVID vaccine, said that natural immunity is more effective than the very vaccine he works on, and Pfizer produces.

“When somebody is naturally immune — like they got COVID — they probably have more antibodies against the virus…When you actually get the virus, you’re going to start producing antibodies against multiple pieces of the virus … So, your antibodies are probably better at that point than the [COVID] vaccination,” Karl said. Notwithstanding, Karl still believes that vaccine mandates are positive for society.

The written accompaniment to Project Veritas’ video contained a flawed premise right from the beginning. In its statement that “antibodies lead to equal, if not better, protection” against COVID-19 than any vaccine, it conveniently skimmed past the part where individuals would need to survive the virus to obtain said immunity.

Acquiring Natural Immunity and the ‘Survival Rate’ of COVID-19 (as a Viable Alternative to Vaccination)

A widespread misconception often reiterated by bad actors both on and off social media is the claim that COVID-19 has “a 99 percent survival rate”; the notion has been repeatedly debunked, and a July 2021 Associated Press fact-check noted in part:

Dr. Thomas Giordano, professor of medicine and section chief of infectious diseases at Baylor College of Medicine, said the tweet ignores the fact that many people who survive COVID-19 have long-term symptoms, and that people who survive it can spread the disease to high risk patients who will not be as lucky.

One in 500 people in the U.S. has died from COVID. To try to trivialize it and say it’s nothing, it doesn’t matter, I think it’s just a gross mischaracterization of what we are all living through,” Giordano told The Associated Press in a call.

In order for the Project Veritas claims to be reliable, acquiring natural immunity would have to be a low-risk proposition. On October 2 2021, Reuters reported:

The United States surpassed 700,000 coronavirus-related deaths on [October 1 2021], according to a Reuters tally, as officials roll out booster doses of vaccines to protect the elderly and people working in high-risk professions.

The country has reported an average of more than 2,000 deaths per day over the past week, which represents about 60% of the peak in fatalities in January [2021], a Reuters analysis of public health data showed.

The United States still leads the world in COVID-19 cases and deaths, accounting for 19% and 14% of all reported infections and fatalities, according to Reuters tally. Globally, the pandemic is set to surpass 5 million deaths.

The highly transmissible Delta variant has driven a surge in COVID-19 cases that peaked around mid-September [2021] before falling to the current level of about 117,625 cases per day, based on a seven-day rolling average.

Natural Immunity Or Vaccination?

Project Veritas described a false binary in which protection from COVID-19 was an either/or proposition.

In August 2021, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) issued a press release (“New CDC Study: Vaccination Offers Higher Protection than Previous COVID-19 Infection”) regarding a study aimed at contrasting “natural immunity” with the protection offered by vaccines:

In [August 6 2021]’s MMWR, a study of COVID-19 infections in Kentucky among people who were previously infected with SAR-CoV-2 shows that unvaccinated individuals are more than twice as likely to be reinfected with COVID-19 than those who were fully vaccinated after initially contracting the virus. These data further indicate that COVID-19 vaccines offer better protection than natural immunity alone and that vaccines, even after prior infection, help prevent reinfections.

“If you have had COVID-19 before, please still get vaccinated,” said CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky. “This study shows you are twice as likely to get infected again if you are unvaccinated. Getting the vaccine is the best way to protect yourself and others around you, especially as the more contagious Delta variant spreads around the country.”

The study of hundreds of Kentucky residents with previous infections through June 2021 found that those who were unvaccinated had 2.34 times the odds of reinfection compared with those who were fully vaccinated. The findings suggest that among people who have had COVID-19 previously, getting fully vaccinated provides additional protection against reinfection.

Additionally, a second publication from MMWR shows vaccines prevented COVID-19 related hospitalizations among the highest risk age groups. As cases, hospitalizations, and deaths rise, the data in today’s MMWR reinforce that COVID-19 vaccines are the best way to prevent COVID-19.


Project Veritas’ Nick Karl and Pfizer “exposed” video was one in a long series of deceptively edited, bad-faith efforts from the organization and its social media cheerleaders. Any efforts from Project Veritas were highly likely to be misleading. Moreover, global scientific consensus had already recognized that COVID-19 infections confer some degree of immunity — and they still overwhelmingly favored vaccination.



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5 Responses to It was no confession: Project Veritas ambushed ‘Nick Karl From Pfizer’ and then they gloated at him

  1. Nyob says:

    So in a nutshell the guy does work for Pfizer and he did make those statements and natural immunity is in fact superior. Thanks.

  2. Pingback: Project Veritas: An enemy of truth? | weehingthong

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