I'm an ER doctor and Spotify subscriber. I listened to Rogan talk with Dr. Robert Malone for 3 hours to hear the controversy myself, and also watched Rogan's IG response.

Rogan says he's interested in "finding out what the truth is."

I'm not so sure. Long review/thread: 🧵⬇️ pic.twitter.com/uoKDROkHEg

— Graham Walker, MD (@grahamwalker) February 4, 2022

If you don't want to doomscroll down, I'll summarize my main points about how misleading the interview is first, then timestamp the interview in-depth.

1️⃣Rogan and Malone discuss lots of vague theoretical vaccine risks, and spend NO time on ACTUAL risks, like COVID deaths.

— Graham Walker, MD (@grahamwalker) February 4, 2022

3️⃣Rogan (who tends to lean a bit conspiratorial, like Malone) almost never questions Malone on some of his most ridiculous claims; it almost seems like a really weak interview from Rogan. He questions and critiques many other interviewees hard but lets RM's tall tales slide.

— Graham Walker, MD (@grahamwalker) February 4, 2022

5️⃣Joe Rogan (JR) and RM talk a lot about conspiracy theories that are entirely conflicting. Does Big Pharma want to get rich by giving vaccines and monoclonals to keep people out of the hospital? Or do hospitals want people to get COVID for money? Are doctors corrupt or reliable?

— Graham Walker, MD (@grahamwalker) February 4, 2022

An ICU nurse, or nursing home or rehab nurse? You've had highly published scientists and physicians and epidemiologists, but how about anyone who's actually worked this damn job caring for these patients with "mild" Omicron? I challenge you to invite some on your show.

— Graham Walker, MD (@grahamwalker) February 4, 2022

Okay, now onto the really long part where I critique Rogan and Malone. I'll timestamp with images and transcript. But first, let's talk about Malone.
No doubt Dr. Malone is an experienced scientist in the world of vaccines. His CV confirms that. Knows tons more than me for sure.

— Graham Walker, MD (@grahamwalker) February 4, 2022

JM is a researcher. Great. We need those. But as I said earlier, he doesn't see patients. First, his specialty is Pathology. This deals with cells under a microscope, lab tests, and cadavers. Pathologists arguably almost never see patients in an office, a clinic, or the hospital.

— Graham Walker, MD (@grahamwalker) February 4, 2022

This is not me defaming his experience, education, or scientific contributions. But it's the same reason your chemistry professor doesn't prescribe you antibiotics. While they know what the chemical does in the test tube, that's not the same thing as a human body.

— Graham Walker, MD (@grahamwalker) February 4, 2022

Okay, onto the review. First, RM's famotidine (Pepcid) claims. Early in the pandemic, RM says he was researching how famotidine could work against COVID's viral proteins. Key point: how it COULD work. All theoretical. (And again: this is fine, science STARTS with theory!) pic.twitter.com/BaR1CfolWT

— Graham Walker, MD (@grahamwalker) February 4, 2022

But that's not all: there are multiple systematic reviews looking at *actual* studies of famotidine, one with 46,000 patients, another with 36,000 patients. They found no benefit to famotidine for COVID. https://t.co/TJ594gOIcKhttps://t.co/loNYDhI5Ao

— Graham Walker, MD (@grahamwalker) February 4, 2022

Let's move onto hydroxychloroquine (HCQ). Several common themes here from RM: more "modeling studies" that HCQ is effective and INCREDIBLE claims: half a million lives could have been saved! If we have 850,000 dead, and 500k could have been saved, HCQ must be VERY effective. pic.twitter.com/LOsLfpdwTu

— Graham Walker, MD (@grahamwalker) February 4, 2022

Several reviews/studies: https://t.co/3zw3S4Ssuphttps://t.co/i1ru4xRpKJhttps://t.co/s9cQbLm3O0
Here's one from Brazil if you don't trust the US or UK:https://t.co/CNM9Wav5I8 pic.twitter.com/PHUCWHgxUT

— Graham Walker, MD (@grahamwalker) February 4, 2022

The only other thing I will say about ivermectin is because it's back in the news this week: This Japanese study showed a benefit in ivermectin/COVID Petri dishes. Not humans. LOTS OF THINGS KILL COVID IN PETRI DISHES.https://t.co/GCcoXbBNmR

— Graham Walker, MD (@grahamwalker) February 4, 2022

I also noticed that when RM discusses spurious claims, he can never seem to cite his sources. Yet in other areas he knows the exact article where he read the fact. There is no evidence that prior COVID infection increases your risk of vaccine side effects. https://t.co/h84VYwb4Dg pic.twitter.com/QUawt6lM36

— Graham Walker, MD (@grahamwalker) February 4, 2022

Malone then talks about the power of natural immunity, which unfortunately is not turning out to be true. Unfortunately, even getting Delta variant does not protect you from Omicron. Vaccines are more effective than prior infection.https://t.co/fyIBWRS6bohttps://t.co/PHBodhIL9g

— Graham Walker, MD (@grahamwalker) February 4, 2022