Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman Hindu temple: Just a shrine?

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THE GOLDEN TRIANGLE MUNESWARAR KUIL, A HINDU TEMPLE, IS AT JALAN P RAMLEE, KUALA LUMPUR

Also known as the Muneswarar Kaliyaman Hindu temple, it is 101 years old.

However, Tengku Adnan today insisted that the premises is an “illegal dwelling” that houses a “shrine” and not a temple, adding that all places or worship must adhere to rules set by the authorities.

Malaysiakini

‘Tengku Adnan misled House on Jln P Ramlee temple’

 

Federal Territories Minister Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor “misled” the Dewan Rakyat in saying there is a court order allowing the demolition of Kuala Lumpur’s Sri Muneswarar Kaliyamman Temple, Subang MP R Sivarasa said.

He said that this was because the court itself had stressed that there is no order for the temple’s demolition.

In his May 30, 2013, judgment, Justice VT Singham said that the July 5, 2012 judgment “does not include any order of demolition of the wall of the temple building and it is also not an eviction order”.

“Tengku Adnan misled the House but the question is, did he do so knowingly?

“If yes, it is contempt of the House and should be referred to the rights and privileges committee.

“If he did so unknowingly, he has to explain which officer misled him into believing there was a court order and what actions will be taken against that officer,” Sivarasa said.

‘Tengku Adnan misled House on Jln P Ramlee temple’

THE SELF-STYLE HINDU ‘EXPERT’ TENGKU ADNAN GAVE THE DEMOLITION ORDER HIMSELF!

Malaysian Insider

Temple demolition order came from Tengku Adnan, says his deputy

By YISWAREE PALANSAMY
November 19, 2013

Loga Balan (centre) meeting with the temple management and opposition MP Tian Chua (3rd left) at the DBKL headquarters regarding the temple demolition issue today. The Malaysian Insider pic by Yiswaree Palansamy, November 19, 2013.Loga Balan (centre) meeting with the temple management and opposition MP Tian Chua (3rd left) at the DBKL headquarters regarding the temple demolition issue today. The Malaysian Insider pic by Yiswaree Palansamy, November 19, 2013.

The demolition order on the Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman Hindu temple at Jalan P. Ramlee earlier this month came from Federal Territories Minister Datuk Seri Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor, his deputy Datuk J. Loga Balan Mohan said.

At a closed-door meeting with the temple management at the City Hall headquarters in Kuala Lumpur today, Loga Balan said the order did not come from him but was instead a directive from his boss.

“The power to demolish lies with the minister,” he said, maintaining, however, that the temple was not demolished

“The temple is still there,” Loga Balan said at the meeting which was also attended by Batu MP Tian Chua, Malaysia Hindu Sangam (MHS) president Datuk R.S. Mohan Shan and several members of media.

This caused an irate member of the temple’s legal team, G. Sivamalar, to rebut Loga Balan’s claim.

“Deities were remove… how can you say the temple was not demolished?” Sivamalar said.

When Loga Balan insisted that it was Tengku Adnan who had “veto” power in the matter, the temple management committee demanded to meet Tengku Adnan and told Loga Balan he was of no use to the discussion as he did not have the power to execute any effective action in the matter.

Temple demolition order came from Tengku Adnan, says his deputy

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Malaysiakini

Hindu Sangam pans Ku Nan’s ‘how to build temples’

If Federal Territories Minister Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor’s definition of temples is anything to go by, not a single Hindu temple could have been built in Malaysia, said the Malaysian Hindu Sangam.

“Because to build a temple according to our religion’s rules, we will need at least five acres of land for all aspects (of the temple) to be considered,” said its president RS Mohan Shan.

He said this is to accommodate requirements such as ponds, halls, and the temple itself, however, the government does not allocate land for this.

“The government is not allocating us any land for Hindu temples. Most of our temples are illegally built because we do not get proper land for these thing,” he claimed when contacted.

Mohan was asked to comment on Tengku Adnan’s insistence that the 101-year old Sri Muneswarar Kaliyamman temple, which was partially demolished on Sunday, was actually a “shrine”.

Mohan said that while the Hindu Sangam recognises that many Hindu temples are not up to specifications, the federal minister should not have the final word on Hindu affairs.

“I welcome it because he learnt about Hinduism as a Muslim and it is good, but he should not be the authority to decide anything on Hindu rites.

“The decision board should be Hindu Sangam or any (Hindu) religious body,” he said, referring to Tengku Adnan’s claim to have knowledge of Hindu religion.

Hindu Sangam pans Ku Nan’s ‘how to build temples’

Video: Ku Nan: I’ve studied Hinduism too, ‘won’t fight’ with Waytha

Malaysiakini

Ku Nan insists he’s right, shrugs off Waytha’s demand
6:13PM Nov 13, 2013

Video | 4.35 mins

Federal Territories Minister Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor has refused to be drawn into an argument with Deputy Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department P Waythamoorthy over Umno minister’s interpretation of Hinduism.

“Why you want to pitch me against him? He is a cabinet member. I wouldn’t like to be pit against one another,” Tengku Adnan told reporters at the Parliament lobby today.

Pressed further on this, Tengku Adnan skirted the question and stressed that there were people who would take advantage of religion, such as PAS and the Shiite sect, for non-religious motives.

Yesterday, Waythamoorthy lashed out at Tengku Adnan for claiming that the Sri Muneswarar Kaliyamman on Jalan P Ramlee in Kuala Lumpur was a shrine instead of proper temple.

Waytha also demanded for an apology for the partial demolition of some structures at the temple by Kuala Lumpur City Hall enforcement personnel on Sunday.

However, Tengku Adnan today insisted that premises was an “illegal dwelling” that housed a “shrine” and not a temple, adding that all places or worship must adhere to rules set by the authorities.

“In the case of this temple on Jalan P Ramlee. I never broke the temple. I never broke a shrine. It’s just a shrine anyway. And I will preserve to make sure that it is a place that people can still go and do whatever they will like to do,” he said.

FIRST,THEY CUT OFF THE WATER SUPPLY AND THE POWER SUPPLY.

THEN THEY CAME, AT 7AM ON A SUNDAY MORNING!

The main question is that why would Tenaga Nasional Berhad (TNB) and Syabas cut off power and water supply to the temple if it was an attempt to beautify the place?

Free Malaysia Today

Temple wreck: More than what meets the eye

B Nantha Kumar | November 13, 2013

…instead of rebuking DBKL, Federal Territories Minister Tengku Adnan Mansor defended the act, saying the DBKL was attempting to ‘beautify’ the sacred place.

The most mind boggling comment came from none other than the MIC president G Palanivel, who said only stalls at the vicinity were removed. But the entire episode has left several questions unanswered.

The main question is that why would Tenaga Nasional Berhad (TNB) and Syabas cut off power and water supply to the temple if it was an attempt to beautify the place?

On top of that, why would the Federal Territories Ministry choose to ‘beautify’ the temple at 7am on a weekend, with about 300 officers from five government agencies being present there.

The agencies involved on the day were from DBKL, Land and Mineral Department, TNB, Syabas and the police.

Now, can anyone recall when was the last time five government agencies got involved in a temple issue, unless a demolition is taking place?

The unusual thing about the whole ‘beautifying’ process is that the police cordoned all main roads leading to the temple, Jalan Raja Chulan, Jalan Sultan Ismail and Jalan P Ramlee, to ensure no one approached the area.

Why is DBKL is helping a private firm?

…Tengku Adnan said that the funds to beautify the temple will be provided by the developer involved in the land dispute over the temple.

So, five government agencies came about demolishing a temple so that a private developer could provide money for the temple committee to beautify the site? Interesting, is it not?

…Why is DBKL is so accommodating of the developer, to give the eight feet of land housing a temple which has been there for 100-years?

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/opinion/2013/11/13/temple-wreck-more-than-what-meets-the-eye/

Hindraf tells Federal Territories Minister Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor, “MIND YOUR OWN RELIGION!”

Malaysiakini

Waytha to Ku Nan: You’ve no business in Hindu affairs
1:23PM Nov 12, 2013

Persatuan Hindraf Malaysia chairperson P Waythamoorthy has lambasted Federal Territories Minister Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor over the latter’s remarks in defending the demolition work at the Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman temple, stating that the latter has “no business in interpreting what amounts to a shrine or temple”.

Coming out from his long silence, Waythamoorthy, who is also deputy minister in the Prime Minister’s Department, said that Tengku Adnan has “no business to issue public statement on matters pertaining to the Hindu religion”.

“As a federal minister he should respect the feelings and sensitivities of Hindus instead of justifying an unconscionable act by the Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL).

Waytha to Ku Nan: You’ve no business in Hindu affairs

Free Malaysia Today

Temple demolition: MIC Youth will stage protest

B Nantha Kumar | November 11, 2013

KUALA LUMPUR: MIC Youth today vowed to stage a protest in front of Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak’s office if Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) does not rebuild the hundred-year old Sri Muneswarar Kaliyamman temple.

The party Youth wing chief T Mohan is also urging Federal Territories minister Tengku Adnan Tengku Manshor to resign for not respecting other religions.

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2013/11/11/temple-demolition-mic-youth-will-stage-protest/

*Federal Territories Minister Datuk Seri Tengku Adnan Mansor said that they had  BROUGHT ALONG A HINDU PRIEST.

WHO WAS THE HINDU PRIEST?

*MIC president G Palanivel said that they never touched the temple, only the sides of the temple.

DID HE GO TO TAKE A LOOK?

What liquor?

Malaysiakini

Hindu temple legal adviser rubbishes ‘liquor’ claim

The legal adviser to the Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman temple in Kuala Lumpur has rubbished Federal Territories Minister Tengku Adnan Mansor’s claims that the temple was used for shady activties and that hard liquor was found on site.

“People can plant whatever they want. We have been working closely with the temple committee and the chairperson is someone of high discipline,” M Manogaran said when contacted.

Manogaran, who was the DAP’s Teluk Intan MP, said even though the authorities have stated they will not touch the main temple hall, its wall is now damaged and at risk of collapse.

This was the result of the demolition of the annexures, which included the caretakers’ living quarters that is attached to the main temple located on Jalan P Ramlee.

Manogaran also said MIC chief G Palanivel is mistaken in claiming that the temple has not been demolished since the main structure is still standing.

“Parts of the areas that were demolished include altars with deities on them. So how can he say these are not part of the temple?” he asked.

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Hindu temple legal adviser rubbishes ‘liquor’ claim

Malaysiakini

Century-old temple not demolished, says Palanivel

MIC president G Palanivel has insisted that the action by the Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) against the Sri Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman temple yesterday did not amount to a demolition of the place of worship.

“I received all kinds of reports that the temple had been demolished but it is only the sides of the temple.

“Only the stalls of the temple was demolished, the temple itself remains intact,” he told a press conference in Kuala Lumpur today.

The temple owners claimed that DBKL had demolished more than it should and encroached into the temple structure.

Century-old temple not demolished, says Palanivel

Malaysiakini

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Ku Nan: No demolition, just beautifying temple

Federal Territory Minister Tengku Adnan said the Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) demolition works at the Sri Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman temple yesterday was only part of the government’s plan to “beautify” the temple.

Calling the temple along Jalan P Ramlee in Kuala Lumpur not a proper temple but a “shrine”, he alleged that illegal activities were being carried out there according to his ministry’s checks.

“Recently we sent a Hindu priest to the place, the priest wanted go the bathroom, he insisted to enter, and in the bathroom he found liquor and alcohol, whiskey.

“I hope they don’t abuse (the temple),” he said at a press conference today, adding that the priest was from India and was knowledgeable.

“I want to beautify it and make it a tourist attraction, I want to make it like the four-face Buddha in Thailand. That is what I hope,” he said.

“We will beautify the temple immediately, make sure it will be done quickly,” he added, saying the developer Hap Seng will come up with the quotation for the cost of the temple’s renovation.

The minister further said his ministry will maintain the temple after it is “beautified”.

Ku Nan: No demolition, just beautifying temple

Malaysian Insider

Putrajaya defends temple demolition, says consulted Hindu priest

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Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) demolishes the Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman Temple in Kuala Lumpur yesterday. – The Malaysian Insider pic by Nazir Sufari, November 11, 2013.

BY TRINNA LEONG
November 11, 2013

Putrajaya reiterated its claim that the 101-year-old Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman Hindu temple was a shrine and not a temple and that it only carried out yesterday’s demolition after consulting a Hindu priest.

Federal Territories Minister Datuk Seri Tengku Adnan Mansor said the priest visited the shrine prior to Deepavali and found only six worshippers.

“The priest went to the toilet, and he found hard liquor stored inside. The priest said that it’s a disgrace to his religion,” he said today.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/putrajaya-defends-temple-demolition-says-consulted-hindu-priest

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Malaysiakini

First a wall, now DBKL takes on main temple
10:24AM Nov 10, 2013

Just a week after Deepavali, demolition works at the 101-year-old Sri Muneswarar temple at Jalan P Ramlee in Kuala Lumpur suddenly resumed this morning, taking off a larger chunk than the originally disputed eight-feet border.

DBKL arrived ‘without warning’

By noon, only the temple’s prayer hall and its five-metre tall gopuram (a monument tower) in front of the hall remains standing, while the bulldozers shifted work to focus on loading rubble onto trucks for disposal.

Padang Serai MP N Surendran said the demolition works have gone beyond the additional eight feet of land that the developer had demanded.

“Suddenly they have gone on and effectively destroyed the temple,” he said.

He claimed that DBKL had arrived without warning at about 7am and proceeded with the demolition works.

He said the demolition was done in bad faith as retribution against the temple committee’s steadfast resistance to the developer’s demands.

This is because the demolition despite the temple committee had already fixed a meeting with the Federal Territories deputy minister Loga Bala Mohan Jayanathan, he said.

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First a wall, now DBKL takes on main temple

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RT : RT “: Shocking- they’re destroying d whole of the 100yr old P Ramlee temple

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Massive operation 2 destroy this 100yr temple- they’ve blocked d road

Star

Sunday November 10, 2013 MYT 11:50:06 AM

City Hall resumes demolition of temple in Jalan P Ramlee (Update)

KUALA LUMPUR: The Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman temple off Jalan P Ramlee was demolished this morning despite a meeting pending with the deputy minister of the Federal Territories Ministry later this month.

Temple president R.A. Balasubramaniam said the officers from Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) along with several policemen came to the temple as early as 7.30am.

A building at the temple site on the verge of being demolished

By 11am, parts of the temple building had been torn down. A bystander, identified as Mohan said he was unsure if the main temple would be demolished today.

By 11.15am, several tractors were seen tearing down the main temple building, including the roof. City Hall officers were seen collecting household items and putting them at the side to be handed over to the temple committee.

A reporter from AFP was heard saying that City Hall officers came as early as 7am and went straight away about their jobs.

By 11.45am, only part of the main building and shrine was left undemolished.

Malaysian Edition

Published On: Sun, Nov 10th, 2013

City Hall resumes demolition of temple in Jalan P Ramlee

KUALA LUMPUR: The Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman temple off Jalan P Ramlee was demolished this morning despite a meeting pending with the deputy minister of the Federal Territories Ministry later this month.

City Hall resumes demolition of temple in Jalan P Ramlee

A building at the temple site on the verge of being demolished
Members of the temple committee talking to City Hall officers as the demolition is carried out. Starpix by CHOONG MEK ZHIN

Temple president R.A. Balasubramaniam said the officers from Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) along with several policemen came to the temple as early as 7.30am.

“They made those inside leave without any explanation and proceeded to demolish the temple,” he said.

“Nobody will talk to us and they have not allowed us to go inside to salvage what we can. No notice has been served,” he said.

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City Hall resumes demolition of temple in Jalan P Ramlee – The Star Online

Malaysiakini

KL temple demolition resumes, Jayathas arrested
10:24AM Nov 10, 2013

Demolition works at the 101-year-old Golden Triangle Muneswarar temple at Jalan P Ramlee in Kuala Lumpur was reported to have resumed this morning.

When contacted today, temple secretary Nalini Nani confirmed news that lawyer and PKR leader S Jayathas has been detained at the temple site.

The controversial works began in September when the Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) forcibly put up a dividing wall within the temple’s premises as the area had been handed to the neighbouring developer.

KL temple demolition resumes, Jayathas arrested

SUNDAY, 10 NOVEMBER 2013 10.00am
100 year old Jalan P Ramlee temple is being demolished now

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DBKL dawn raid- 100yr old P Ramlee temple being demolished now. Keadilan H Rights Deputy Jayathas arrested

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Dbkl demolishing P Ramlee temple now. Dbkl acting for hap seng to chase out indian minorities

Dear all please come to jalan p. Ramly temple and give ur support to stop this demolish.

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MR FT MINISTER, YOUR RELIGIOUS-RACIAL BIAS IS SHOWING!

“Why do we always have problems with temples? Not with churches, mosques nor Chinese temples… why? Ask yourself, don’t ask me,” he questioned.

Earlier today, Tengku Adnan was reported as saying that the Sri Muneeswarar Kaliamman temple was a mere shrine and not a temple. He also said that holy place will only be identified as a “shrine” and would not be given the entire land which it currently sits on.

Free Malaysia Today

Temple demolition: PKR-MIC hit out at Tengku Adnan

P Ramani | September 9, 2013

While PKR demands Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak to sack the FT minister, MIC Youth warns Tengku Adnan that temple demolition would affect Indian support for BN.

PETALING JAYA: PKR vice president N Surendran today criticised Federal Territories Minister Tengku Adnan Mansor for claiming that the Sri Muneeswarar Kaliamman Temple in Jalan P Ramlee is a mere shrine and not a temple.

“I am shocked at the contemptuous manner in which Tengku Adnan referred to the 101-year-old temple,” he said.

Training his guns against the minister, Surendran said that Tengku Adnan should not conveniently categorise the holy place a mere shrine when the latter was not an expert in Hindu religious buildings.

He also said that even if the place was a shrine, the area was still a sacred centre for Hindus.

“And Tengku Adnan’s claim that only an illegal canteen was demolished (last week) is also false. Three shrines within the temple area were smashed, and the deities forcibly and sacrilegiously removed by plainclothes DBKL personnel,” said Surendran.

The Padang Serai MP called upon Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak to sack Tengku Adnan from his post for insulting the Hindus.

MIC Youth chief T Mohan resonated Sivaraajh’s sentiment, saying that since it involved the Indian community, the MIC would not bow to Tengku Adnan’s threat.

“We will go all out to settle the temple problem and will not allow Tengku Adnan’s statement to cower us,” Mohan said.

Temple demolition: PKR-MIC hit out at Tengku Adnan

The Malaysia Hindu Sangam, the MIC youth chief, an Indian opposition politician and a lawyer took the minister to task.

Malaysian Insider

Tengku Adnan draws fire from Hindus for suggesting only their temples cause problems

BY YISWAREE PALANSAMY
September 09, 2013
Latest Update: September 10, 2013 04:44 am

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At the centre of the storm, the temple which Tengku Adnan has downgraded to a 'shrine' in the heart of Kuala Lumpur. The Malaysian Insider pic by Nazir Sufari, September 9, 2013.At the centre of the storm, the temple which Tengku Adnan has downgraded to a ‘shrine’ in the heart of Kuala Lumpur. The Malaysian Insider pic by Nazir Sufari, September 9, 2013.

Datuk Seri Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor stepped into a minefield when he “downgraded” a century-old Hindu temple into a shrine and then pointedly asked why the authorities “always had problems with temples and not churches, mosques or Chinese temples”.

The attitude of the Federal Territories minister to a sacred Hindu spot hit a raw nerve among other politicians and the head of the Malaysia Hindu Sangam, who responded strongly today.

They questioned if Tengku Adnan knew enough about Hinduism to make comments on what is a shrine or a temple and on the Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman Temple, in particular.

On Tengku Adnan’s suggestion that only Hindu temples were problematic, Malaysia Hindu Sangam president Datuk R.S. Mohan Shan shot back that it was because the government did not provide Hindus a proper site to build their temples.

“This is a ridiculous statement by the minister. We are the victims here. We are not the trouble-causers,” Mohan responded.

Parti Keadilan Rakyat vice-president N. Surendran said Tengku Adnan has failed to realise that a shrine is the sacred spot of any Hindu temple.

“Tengku Adnan is simply mocking Hindus,” he said.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/tengku-adnan-draws-fire-from-hindus-for-suggesting-only-their-temples-cause

Malaysia Chronicle

Monday, 09 September 2013 13:58

CLUMSY MOUTH Ku Nan outrages with comments that Indian temples always give PROBLEMS

Written by Malaysia Chronicle

KUALA LUMPUR – In comments that critics said reeked of racial prejudice and are bound to further upset the Indian community in Malaysia, Umno minister Tengku Adnan Mansor questioned why was it that Indian temples always gave the authorities “problems”, but not the Chinese temples, churches or mosques.

“Why do we always have problems with temples? Not with churches, mosques nor Chinese temples… why? Ask yourself, don’t ask me,” Malaysian Insider reported Tengku Adnan, or Ku Nan as he is often called, as saying on Monday.

However, Ku Nan may have put his foot into his mouth and made things even worse with his clumsy and insensitive wordings.

Not only did he accuse Indian temples of causing “problems”, he also insisted that the Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman Temple was merely a “shrine”.

“I know what a temple and shrine is all about, I am also a pious man. I pray I would not want to break something which people pray to. This country has laws so please abide by it,” said Ku Nan.

Malaysia Chronicle

The FT Mnister says, “YOUR TEMPLE IS JUST A SHRINE, NOT A TEMPLE!”

“Why do we always have problems with temples? Not with churches, mosques nor Chinese temples… why? Ask yourself, don’t ask me,” he questioned.

Malaysian Insider

Temple is only a shrine, not a temple, says Tengku Adnan

BY YISWAREE PALANSAMY
September 09, 2013
Latest Update: September 09, 2013 08:27 pm

The Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman Temple is a mere shrine and not a temple, Federal Territories Minister Datuk Seri Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor said of the Hindu temple in Kuala Lumpur’s Golden Triangle.

“I know what a temple and shrine is all about, I am also a pious man. I pray I would not want to break something which people pray to,” he said.

“This country has laws so please abide by it,” Tengku Adnan told reporters today.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/temple-is-only-a-shrine-not-a-temple-says-tengku-adnan

Published on Sep 4, 2013

Federal Territories deputy minister Dr Loga Bala Mohan has defended DBKL personnel who wore shoes in the Sri Muniswarar Kaliamman temple, saying it’s Standard Operating Procedure.

DBKL enforcers wore shoes in temple; it’s SOP says deputy minister

“Normally, the relocation of deities requires special rituals and prayers and should be done with proper care and respect,” said Lim in a statement today.

Malaysiakini

DAP: Temple row shows BN disregard for other religions
11:32AM Sep 7, 2013

The government’s “sacrilegious actions” in the handling of the 100-year-old KL temple ‘demolition’ shows BN has “utter disregard” for other religions, said DAP.

Party secretary-general Lim Guan Eng was responding to the Kuala Lumpur City Hall’s (DBKL) alleged desecration of the 101-year-old Sri Muneswarar Kalyamman Hindu temple at Jalan P Ramlee, Kuala Lumpur.

“Although Federal Territories Minister Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor later explained that ‘the statues were removed carefully and not destroyed’, a report by The Star on Sept 3 revealed that four statues had been “partially damaged due to the hammering to remove them.

“Such an approach in demolishing part of the temple and removing the statues of deities is nothing short of insensitive and high-handed.

DAP: Temple row shows BN disregard for other religions

Malaysian Insider

Devotees and committee members of Hindu temple tear down City Hall fencing to reclaim land

BY YISWAREE PALANSAMY AND DESMOND DAVIDSON
September 05, 2013

The fencing built by Kuala Lumpur City Hall workers at Golden Triangle Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman Temple was torn down by protestors. –  The Malaysian Insider pic by Afif Abd Halim, September 5, 2013.

The fThe committee members of the Golden Triangle Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman temple together with Hindu devotees “reclaimed” their temple land when they tore down fencing erected by City Hall last Sunday.

The event took place after a special prayer in the partially demolished temple.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/hindu-temple-brings-down-fencing-and-reclaims-land-taken-by-city-hall

During his visit to the site on Tuesday, Ramasamy said he found three deities shattered while there was no canteen which was dismantled.
Accompanying him was former Teluk Intan MP M Manogaran, National Interlok Action Team chairperson Thasleem Mohamed Ibrahim and several temple committee members.

Malaysiakini

Ramasamy sees red after visit to ‘demolished’ temple

Penang Deputy Chief Minister II P Ramasamy is seeing red after visiting the 100-year-old Sri Muneswarar Kalyamman temple in the capital, hitting out at BN government leaders for allowing the Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) to “disrespect and insult” the Hindu religion.

Training his guns first on Federal Territories Minister Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor, Ramasamy labelled him a “blatant liar” for saying no deities were damaged by DBKL officers during the exercise on Sunday and that only the canteen area was dismantled.

“Tengku Adnan is not fit to be a minister and the same goes for his deputy, Loga Bala Mohan,” said Ramasamy.

“Loga Bala knows very well what happened to the temple. Why can’t they just talk to the temple committee and get things done amicably instead of this show of force?” he asked.

He alleged that DBKL merely wanted to demolish the temple to make way for an apartment along Jalan P Ramlee, developed by Hup Seng Consolidated Bhd.

“The way the DBKL officers did the demolition was also unbecoming of their posts, as they had disrespected the Hindu religion by walking into the place of worship with boots on,” he said.

“I am shocked to see their uncivilised behaviour. I am also shocked to hear from BN leaders that there was no demolition and that they are beautifying the area. It is an oxymoron to say that,” Ramasamy told Malaysiakini.

Ramasamy sees red after visit to ‘demolished’ temple

Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman Hindu temple demolition, Kuala Lumpur.

Free Malaysia Today

Reveal the truth behind temple demolition

B Nantha Kumar | September 4, 2013

DBKL and FT ministry are not on the same page in explaining the temple demolition.

KUALA LUMPUR: MIC Youth today took the Federal Territory ministry and Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) to task for false claims over a Hindu temple demolition at Jalan P Ramlee here on Sunday.

C Sivaraajh, the wing national secretary urged the minister Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor and his special aid R Ramanan to be more careful when issuing statements on the demolition of the Sri Muniswarer Kaliyamman temple.

“Daily they make contradicting statements. First they said it will not be demolished. Then they admitted that part of the temple was demolished. Later both claimed that DBKL is merely repairing the road in front of the temple.”

In the latest development, Tengku Adnan said that the enforcement officers will only demolish a small portion of the canteen and an illegally erected restaurant within the temple vicinity. “So, who is telling the truth?” asked Sivaraajh during a press conference after meeting the temple committee.

“It is a temple. There is no restaurant inside or outside the temple,” he said.

“Being a minister, Tengku Adnan, and Ramanan who oversees the Indians’ issues in the Federal Territories ministry should be more accurate on this matter,” he added.

“Their false statements may tarnish the Federal Territories ministry and BN reputation in the public eye.”

Reveal the truth behind temple demolition

Malaysian Insider

Force unnecessary in removal of temple statues, says Hindu Sangam

BY RITA JONG
September 03, 2013
Latest Update: September 04, 2013 02:43 am

Police and City Hall should have consulted with Muneswarar Kaliyaman temple officials before forcing their way in and removing statutes of deities without observing Hindu religious practices.

Malaysian Hindu Sangam president Datuk RS Mohan Shan said the authorities’ forceful removal of the deities by non-Hindus who do not know Hindu religious practices is a grave mistake.

“There is no excuse for such arrogant behaviour,” he said in a statement today.

Mohan Shan also criticised Datuk R. Ramanan, the special officer for the Federal Territories Minister Datuk Seri Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor, for supporting the actions of the authorities.

“It is surprising that Datuk Ramanan is totally ignorant that all activities within the temple must be carried out in accordance with Hindu religious procedures,” he said.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/force-unnecessary-in-removal-of-temple-statues-says-hindu-sangam

A CHRISTIAN LEADER SPEAKS!

Catholic Bishop Dr Paul Tan Chee Ing, “This appears to be an act of wanton destruction. At any time, this kind of action would be reprehensible; in these fraught times, they are insolent and contemptible.”

Malaysiakini

Bishop denounces temple desecration by DBKL

Catholic Bishop Dr Paul Tan Chee Ing said he found it “incredible” that in the prevailing mood of hypersensitivity over religious matters, a longstanding Hindu temple in an upscale area of Kuala Lumpur could be subjected to acts of desecration that have riled devotees of the religion and all others who valued freedom of religion.

The head of the Catholic Church in the Malacca-Johor diocese said that what had happened on Sunday to parts of the 101-year-old Muneswarar kuil in Jalan P Ramlee in KL would “accentuate the existing mood of being embattled felt by religious minorities in this country.”

“The authorities appear to have forgotten the episode of barely five years ago when the pulling down of a longstanding Hindu temple in Shah Alam battered the feelings of followers of the religion to such an extent that the action was said to have influenced their vote in the polls that followed not long afterwards,” remarked the bishop.

“One would have thought that that incident and its consequences would have been a chastening lesson for the authorities such that they would tread carefully henceforth,” mused the Jesuit-trained prelate.

Bishop Paul said that he gleaned from reports on Sunday’s incident that there was no legal justification for the action of KL City Hall personnel in destroying parts of the temple.

Bishop denounces temple desecration by DBKL

The Sundaily

Demolition was legal: Ku Nan

SUMMARY OF ARTICLE

Federal Territories Minister Datuk Seri Tengku Adnan said the demolished part was an illegal extension by the temple which was initially used as food stalls that were rented to hawkers.
1 Temple rented out  illegal extension to food hawkers.
2 Warned by City Hall that it was illegal for them to do so, Temple turned them into shrines for deities.
3 “We have a court order for the demolition and the temple committee was given notice by City Hall of the exercise in March last year. We did not touch the main shrine … just the extension, and we have even offered to repair the new wall and beautify the place.”

PKR vice-president R. Sivarasa said
1 There was no court order for the demolition, only a letter from the Federal Land office.
2 He showed a court judgement from the developer’s suit against City Hall.
3 The court had ruled that the developer was disallowed from demolishing any part of the temple and was merely allowed access to the temple premises for the purpose of making “assessments”.

Demolition was legal: Ku Nan

Putrajaya says they won’t demolish the temple…

CAN WE BELIEVE THEM?
WHAT CAN WE BELIEVE?
WHO CAN WE TRUST?

1 Police: DBKL only doing repairs, not demolishing the temple…
2 MIC President G Palanive: DBKL only demolishing shops, not temple…

3 Police: several statues were temporarily shifted to enable a pavement next to it to be repaired..

Hindu deities that were temporarily shifted?

Malaysian Insider

Putrajaya moves to defuse religious issue, assures 101-year-old Hindu temple safe

BY YISWAREE PALANSAMY
September 02, 2013
Latest Update: September 02, 2013 05:13 pm

Putrajaya has moved to placate Malaysia’s minority Hindus, assuring them today that a 101-year-old temple in the centre of Kuala Lumpur will not be demolished to make way for a pavement.

The attempted demolition yesterday attracted scores of worshippers to protect the temple, raising the temperature in Malaysia’s religious landscape and pitting the ruling Barisan Nasional (BN) government against politicians from its own coalition.

The location of non-Muslim houses of worship is a hot-button issue, with several incidents of temples being torn down or relocated due to development, especially in central Selangor.

The temple demolitions were among the factors that led to the ruling BN losing Selangor and its two-thirds super majority in parliament in the past two general elections.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/putrajaya-moves-to-defuse-religious-issue-assures-101-year-old-hindu-temple

Malaysiakini

City Hall move to seize temple land is illegal, says lawyer

BY JENNIFER GOMEZ
September 02, 2013
Latest Update: September 02, 2013 02:19 pm

Protesters making their feelings quite obvious at the temple grounds this morning. The Malaysian Insider pic by Nazir Sufari, September 2, 2013.Protesters making their feelings quite obvious at the temple grounds this morning. The Malaysian Insider pic by Nazir Sufari, September 2, 2013.

The move by Kuala Lumpur City Hall to seize the land on which the Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman Hindu temple sits in Jalan P. Ramlee is illegal, said a lawyer for the temple committee.

Legal adviser M. Manogaran said the committee will not concede to the land being taken away.

He added that it was state land under the purview of the Federal Land Commissioner, and it does not belong to the developer.

“The action was illegal. City Hall was not acting on a court order or a legal notice. Why is City Hall allowing itself to be used by a private developer who wants to get their hands on the land?” he questioned.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/city-hall-move-to-seize-temple-land-is-illegal-says-lawyer

5h

15 people have been arrested at the Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman Hindu temple demolition

The Sundaily

A woman from the family which helps to look after the temple resists arrest. SUNPIX by ADIB RAWI YAHYA
A woman from the family which helps to look after the temple resists arrest. SUNPIX by ADIB RAWI YAHYA

10 held during demolition of illegal extension by City Hall

“We don’t care if you are an YB, we’ll whack you.” 

With that shouted threat, MP for Padang Serai N Surendran was pushed by a band of toughs when the PKR vice president tried, with a band of party activists, to stop Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) personnel from demolishing a Hindu temple in Kuala Lumpur today.

PKR veep roughed up in temple fracas

Free Malaysia Today

DBKL gangsters rough up MP

Lisa J. Ariffin | September 1, 2013

Padang Serai MP N Surendran cries assault by thugs during standoff with DBKL this morning.

PETALING JAYA: A PKR MP was assaulted by gangsters when he tried to stop Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) officers from demolishing the 101-year old Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman Hindu temple in Jalan P. Ramlee.

Padang Serai MP N Surendran claimed that the plainclothes thugs were hired by DBKL to rough up the protestors, and were directly receiving instructions from uniformed DBKL officers to assault him.

“It’s terrible because I had been aggressively assaulted by gangsters. They were in plainclothes, but were given instructions by DBKL,” he told FMT.

“Four of five men surrounded me and shouted that they’re going to whack me, then they pushed me in the chest. It was aggressively done… they didn’t care if I was an MP.

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2013/09/01/dbkl-gangsters-rough-up-mp/

Malaysian Insider

MIC Youth chief, others held for protesting demolition of 101-year-old Hindu temple

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A City Hall enforcement officer cutting the lock on the gate of the Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman Hindu temple in Jalan P. Ramlee to enter the temple grounds. City Hall had moved in earlier today to demolish the 101-year-old temple. The Malaysian Insider pic by Afif Abd Halim, September 1, 201

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/mic-youth-chief-others-held-in-protest-over-hindu-temple-demolition

Star

Sunday September 1, 2013 MYT 6:52:01 PM

DBKL demolishes part of 101-year-old Hindu temple, MIC’s T. Mohan, PKR’s Jayathas detained

PETALING JAYA: Part of the 101-year-old Sri Muneswarar Kaliamman Hindu temple at Jalan P. Ramlee is being demolished by Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) on Sunday after the temple authorities and DBKL reached an impasse in their year-long negotiations to remove the temple from DBKL’s reserve land.

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Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman Hindu temple arrest update: the statements are still being taken at ipd dang wangi.

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YB N. Surendren’s PA K.Nagarajan arrested handcuffed and beaten inside the DBKL van.

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RT : Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman temple arrest update: the stmnts r still being taken at ipd dwangi

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Palanivel claims temple not touched- LIAR- I saw 3 deities broken wit hammers!

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At Ipd dang wangi with those who were arrested at the temple demolition

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Amongst those arrested at the temple demolition are k. Nagarajan, nalini rani, prem kumar, kunasingahm veerasamy and

G Palanivel, “Not the temple, they are keeping the temple as it is. I am the one who wrote the letter to Tengku Adnan, they didn’t disturb it (the temple).”

There was no notice, it was a demolition by ambush… they just came in a day after Merdeka and began breaking it down. Negotiation was supposed to be still on-going… and there was no court order permitting it.

However, Raman Ramakrishnan, an aide to Deputy Federal and Urban Wellbeing Minister Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor, told the temple officials later that DBKL was only trying to erect a retaining wall.

“It is not to demolish the temple,” he said, adding that the temple had encroached into government land and the wall will serve as a boundary.

G Palanivel, “Not the temple, they are keeping the temple as it is. I am the one who wrote the letter to Tengku Adnan, they didn’t disturb it (the temple).”

Malaysiakini

Okay to demolish but leave temple, says MIC chief

MIC President G Palanivel said the demolition works at the site of the historic Golden Triangle Muneswarar Kuil at Jalan P Ramlee is okay as long as the temple is not touched.

When asked by reporters about the incident today after being re-elected as the president of MIC unopposed, Palanivel said he had written to Federal Territories and Urban Well-being Minister Tengku Adnan Mansor to stop him demolishing the temple.

“In the last cabinet meeting I wrote a letter to Tengku Adnan. They wanted to put out the existing temple in the city area, so I presented a paper and he agreed to keep it.

“So they wanted to demolish all the other shops and all that, but that is okay.

Palanivel: DBKL can demolish but don’t touch temple

Malaysian Insider

MIC Youth chief, others held in protest over Hindu temple demolition

BY MUZLIZA MUSTAFA and DIYANA IBRAHIM
September 01, 2013
Latest Update: September 01, 2013 03:36 pm

MIC Youth chief T.Mohan getting arrested for trying to block DBKL and contractors from demolishing a temple in Jalan P.Ramlee in Kuala Lumpur today. The Malaysian Insider pic by Afif Abd Halim, September 1, 2013.MIC Youth chief T.Mohan getting arrested for trying to block DBKL and contractors from demolishing a temple in Jalan P.Ramlee in Kuala Lumpur today. The Malaysian Insider pic by Afif Abd Halim, September 1, 2013.
MIC Youth chief T. Mohan became the latest politician to be held by police in a protest to stop Kuala Lumpur City Hall from demolishing the 101-year-old Sri Muneswarar Kaliyaman Hindu temple in Jalan P. Ramlee in the capital city today.

Police have also arrested a few others in a commotion outside the temple as more supporters stream into the area to stop the demolition.

All those held were handcuffed and taken to the Dang Wangi district police headquarters.

This morning, police detained PKR’s S.Jayathas when he tried to stop the demolition to make way for a pedestrian walkway as temple lawyers negotiate with the authorities.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/mic-youth-chief-others-held-in-protest-over-hindu-temple-demolition

Malaysiakini

Four arrested during temple ‘demolition’

PKR activist S Jayathas, MIC Federal Territories Youth chief D Tharmakumaran and two temple representatives have been arrested for allegedly trying to stop the demolition of a Hindu temple at Jalan P Ramlee Kuala Lumpur.

jalan p ramlee temple demolition 010913They are believe to have been brought to the Dang Wangi district police headquarters.

They were allegedly nabbed while attempting to stop the Kuala Lumpur City Hall’s (DBKL) demolition of the Golden Triangle Muneswarar Kuil at Jalan P Ramlee in progress this morning.

Four arrested during temple ‘demolition’

Malaysia Today

Four arrested in standoff over temple demolition

Sunday, 01 September 2013 admin-s

MMO) – There was no notice, it was a demolition by ambush… they just came in a day after Merdeka and began breaking it down. Negotiation was supposed to be still on-going… and there was no court order permitting it.

Temple lawyer N. Surendran also alleged that “three or four gangsters”, whom he claimed had come with the council’s demolition team, assaulted him when he tried to stop the temple’s destruction.

“The standoff went on from about 8am to 10.30am when the contractors were brought in and they started work.

“These DBKL officers smashed three deities and took them out. We confronted them and asked for a negotiation but they continued to work until 10.30am until the cops came in and asked them to leave,” Surendran told The Malay Mail Online when contacted.

“It is illegal — that is my position as the temple’s lawyer,” he said.

Surendran said in the over two-hour long confrontation this morning, several men he labelled as “gangsters” taunted those who were attempting to call off the demolition.

The Padang Serai MP said the “gangsters” roughly pushed him around.

More to come at: http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/four-arrested-in-standoff-over-temple-demolition

http://www.malaysia-today.net/mtcolumns/newscommentaries/59111-four-arrested-in-standoff-over-temple-demolition

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