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The trains are clean. The stations are clean. However, the sewage systems are overwhelmed by the sheer number of passengers.
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China’s high-speed trains are overwhelmed by poop, study says
Researchers find levels of human waste compounds are hundreds or even thousands of times higher at railway stations than rest of urban sewage system As scientists race to develop new technology to prevent ‘system meltdown’, bacteria-based method might offer answers

Stephen Chen in Beijing
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Published: 6:00am, 2 Jun, 2023
The explosive growth of high-speed rail in China has brought a boom in human waste on trains, threatening a meltdown for the railway network’s sewage treatment facilities, according to researchers commissioned by the government to solve the crisis.
“The processing capabilities of waste treatment facilities are declining, some of them already out of service,” said the team led by senior engineer Xin Siyuan with the China State Railway Group in a peer-reviewed paper published in journal Railway Standard Design on May 24.
Xin’s team said that after spending a year closely monitoring the waste water quality at a major high-speed rail station in Beijing, they were deeply worried about the results.
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Clickbait? You omitted the word stations. I took two trips and did not find any poop out of place.
Headline is the headline from the SCMP article.
Headline is the headline from the SCMP article. I will alter it to reflect the contents.
Due diligence is always welcome. Thanks.
The trains are clean. The stations are clean. However, the sewage systems are overwhelmed by the sheer number of passengers.
Electricity has to be consumed the moment it is generated. Any imbalance can trip generators across the grid resulting in blackouts. So steam/coal/oil/nuclear/gas generators cannot run at an optimal speed. BUT suppose you have loads that can be switched in as required. Some load that can tahan on and off.
Here is a solution: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx2LLCuxdH4 .
“Dr. Frank Shu is a celebrated astrophysicist and Shaw Prize winner now dedicated to making an impact on climate change. He has developed a process that converts biomass to carbon neutral (or negative) coal that can be enhanced by a molten salt nuclear reaction. Sponsored by: National Tsing Hua University”
Turn shit into biochar.
All that carbon is locked for thousands of years. There are no negatives for biochar.
As Captain Jack Sparrow says, “The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem. ” In India cow dung is dried for firewood or used to plaster the walls of their homes.
EVERYBODY complains about plastics. My answer: The government runs pyrolysis plants. You turn in 1.5kg of plastic waste and get a voucher for 1litre of either diesel or RON95. Operating costs/fuel/electricity are borne by the government as CSR/subsidy. No questions asked. Even foreign vehicles are allowed.
NOTE: wastebot is no longer in business. Their Youtube videos are gone.
From: [redacted] @yahoo.com>
To: siokchoo@thesundaily.com ; ; EDITORIAL
Cc: [redacted]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020, 10:21:18 AM GMT+8
Subject: remember Susan Boyle from Britain’s got talent? meet wastebot
I walked out at 5AM and saw more stars than ever
despite the light pollution from the street lights. The
moon is starting to wane as the Azan{Muslim call
to prayer} drifted in from
afar. Before the MovementControlOrder{lockdown},
this was not possible.
I headed back in to look at more videos of wastebot and
related plastic-into-fuel endeavours. Susan Boyle
appeared out of the blue and stunned everybody. When I
chanced across wastebot in the middle of the night, I
was just as stunned. God keeps sending us saviours
– people like Boyan Slat and Peepal Baba – but
our watchmen were looking out for threats instead of
solutions.
I am a newly minted member. This just went on sale for
USD4000 in Apr2020. I can get USD799 off this starter
kit.
You get about 1 gallon of diesel from 12 pounds of
plastic. {1.5kg produces 1 litre}
FAQ What plastic types can this recycle?
Soft plastics: #2, #4, #5,
#6{polystyrene/styrofoam !!!},
ABS make fuel oil. These are the plastics you use
in your daily life most. #1 PET plastic recycles
with some char byproduct. This is the plastic used
for soda and drink containers.
Toxic plastics include: #3 PVC, #7 group (except
ABS), Nylon & Silicone.
These are the wastebot videos:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNs31OgniPA] A NEW Tool to Fight Plastic Pollution @ It’s Source – Wastebot Plastic Recycling Lab
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfi8mcf9ZNw] Wastebot Plastic to Diesel Fuel Demo @ Scottsdale Community College
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQSU9jnzl0o] Wastebot – Plastic Diesel Road Test #1
I researched this further just to be sure wastebot was
not some hoax/fake news. Watch these. You won’t regret
it. Boyan Slat now has a destination for his ocean
plastic. The loop may be considered closed. It is a
pity we have such short sighted leaders and
universities. Instead of our own home grown version, we
just let others casually stroll to the finishing line.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRahbRGZSx0] Turning Plastic Waste into Jet Fuel!
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLCrD_bf3gA] Turning plastic into fuel | What The Future
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BfjaVbLb8I] plastic waste to oil/fuel improved pyrolysis reactor
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njIYHtFmcSs] How to get diesel from waste plastic – Bang Goes the Theory – Series 7 – BBC
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQKKFalZPOM] BOISE PLASTIC WASTE TRANSFORMED INTO DIESEL FUEL
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6z_XdpxnTI] Waste Plastic to Fuel | Waste to Diesel Process (2020)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAitPdqPuk4] New technology turning plastic into fuel
Thieves have already stolen toilet paper in Hong Kong.
One day soon, we may witness thieves stealing plastic refuse.
Additional data not for reading:
From http://glassattic.com/polymer/covering.htm
RECYLCING NUMBERS indicate type of plastic resin used …usually located on the bottom of the plastic item, surrounded by arrows in a triangle):
…..# 1 PET or PETE (polyethylene terephthalate) …containers for soft drinks/some water, peanut butter/jam, sald dressing … shrinks at dishwasher temperatures
…..# 2 and # 4 (high & low density polyethylene) … most common plastics ….shrink at slightly higher temps than #1(generally not dishwasher safe–but see below for more info):
………..HDPE (#2, high density polyethylene) …stronger –milk, juice, some water, yogurt tubs & film containers, grocery bags, gasoline tanks, detergent bottles, toys)
………. LDPE (#4, low density polyehtylene) …cheaper –bread packaging, squeeze bottles–honey/mustard, frozen food bags, toys, paint can lids and milk bottle caps
…..#3 PVC (polyvinyl chloride) –cooking oil bottles, pressure pipe, surgical gloves, clear food packaging, cling film house siding …. don’t know heat resistance but can bake PVC pipe at our temps as long as not too big (large pipes can slump a bit)
…..# 5 (polypropylene –many “medical plastics” and “food plastics”–microwave ware, yogurt cups, margarine tubs, some take-away containers, )… significantly more heat resistant…ok in dishwasher (–but see below for more info)
…..# 6 (polystyrene …open-cell and closed-cell foams —“Styrofoam,” craft store shapes, packing foams, insulation foam from hardware store, foam meat & veg. trays/egg cartons …and also clear/stiff polystyrenes –some disposable drinking cups, guitar picks) ….shrink at our baking temps **
…..# 7 is a catch-all number for all other resins and all sorts of other mixes & laminates, so you can’t bank on it being consistently god or bad (or even recyclable)
# 2 …according to Marie Segal, all the plastic film canisters labeled with the “2” are compatible with polymer clay and will withstand the baking temperature. …….however, it seems that any part not actually covered with clay will begin to soften if baked longer than 10 min. or so??
(… see more on baking these, below in Film Canisters)
# 5 (polypropylene)
…. almost all medical plastics
………prescription bottles… cough syrup bottles … those tall squared containers for dental floss
….some food plastics are also #5
………..individual applesauce cups…yogurt cups (not the larger containers though)–Yoplait and prob. other brands too? (Yoplait has conical shape, good for pencil or paintbrush holders) …..the short 2″ McCormick or Schilling herbs/spices containers (not the reg. size ones tho’)…. maple syrup containers (could make a cool vase?or dolls/figures?) … see below for M & M tube types containers ..”dishwasher-safe” food containers
(…as a fiber, polypropylene is used to make indoor-outdoor carpeting)
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