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I've now seen at least five doctors tell Musk he is full of shit, @dr_jon_l @AlastairMcA30 @gorskon @Craig_A_Spencer @jeremyfaust but the Musk-Cult fan boys have the arrogance and stupidity to argue with them and defend Musk's nonsense tweet. https://t.co/up4DC0NUcC
— Roberto Pereira (@rcr_pereira) June 17, 2024
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Tell me you have no idea what you’re talking about without telling me you have no idea what you’re talking about. (This ignoramus seems to think that ICU doctors don’t consider potential harms from high O2 and PEEP in ventilated patients, and only geniuses like himself do.🤦🏻♂️) https://t.co/HheKGZOif2
— David Gorski, MD, PhD (@gorskon) June 16, 2024
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While we’re on the topic, Elon, patients placed on high flow nasal cannula die too. Those who died were more likely to have experienced more severe hypoxia. Not every patient can be supported with HFNC. #ArmchairIntensivistsSuck https://t.co/Oi5OOz4r9j pic.twitter.com/Kgd2Y8odNs
— Vicki Allen Crabb (@crabb_vicki) June 17, 2024
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The Elon fanbois are missing the point:
— Alastair McAlpine, MD (@AlastairMcA30) June 17, 2024
Elon has never treated a patient with C19.
He has never used a ventilator.
He understands nothing about respiratory physiology.
So for him to pontificate (wrongly) about ventilation during a pandemic is arrogant and stupid.
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The title of Elon’s latest book, “It’s CPR that kills people, not the respiratory and/or cardiac arrest that precedes CPR”.
— Vicki Allen Crabb (@crabb_vicki) June 17, 2024
What’s the mortality rate of individuals who require CPR, but don’t receive CPR? pic.twitter.com/ctgxWLPlBI
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Also, @elonmusk, if you were warning people about using ventilators from the beginning, why were you supplying them in 2020? 🤔 https://t.co/SkyWSy4Con pic.twitter.com/R82lLOz3SU
— Jonathan Laxton MD, FRCPC 🐈🐱🐈⬛ (@dr_jon_l) June 17, 2024
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I tried telling people this!
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 15, 2024
When I talked to doctors in Wuhan after the first wave hit China, their top recommendation was to avoid using intubated ventilators for extended periods at 100% O2, as it damages the lungs. https://t.co/ZA1NrOHcU9.
I got the “you’re not a doctor”…
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The notion that doctors intubated a bunch of patients who didn’t need it, and caused catastrophic death is:
— Alastair McAlpine, MD (@AlastairMcA30) June 17, 2024
(a) Insulting (we don’t do this gig to kill people)
(b) Silly (We don’t intubate people who don’t need it)
(c) Ignorant (if someone doesn’t need a vent- we take them off!)
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Hi @elonmusk, ventilators did not kill the patients. Your anecdotes from doctors do not inform this question – actual evidence like this meta-analysis that showed a trend to benefit form early intubation is much more helpful:https://t.co/1SDHGMt5Yx https://t.co/SkyWSy5adV
— Jonathan Laxton MD, FRCPC 🐈🐱🐈⬛ (@dr_jon_l) June 17, 2024
I would also like to note that "intubated ventilators" is nonsensical – you intubate the patient (i.e. stick the endotracheal tube down the airways) and then you connect the ventilator to the endotracheal tube. You do not stick the endotracheal tube into the ventilator
— Jonathan Laxton MD, FRCPC 🐈🐱🐈⬛ (@dr_jon_l) June 17, 2024
Once we are considering intubating a patient – they are already dying. There is close to a 100% chance they will die with ventilator support. Ventilators give us time to treat the underlying condition.
— Jonathan Laxton MD, FRCPC 🐈🐱🐈⬛ (@dr_jon_l) June 17, 2024
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“Intubated ventilators” (are not a thing).
— Alastair McAlpine, MD (@AlastairMcA30) June 16, 2024
The rest of the tweet is as nonsensical.
A stupid man trying to sound clever while spreading misinformation. pic.twitter.com/R4k2vVOaj5
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